We continue our deep dive into the world of IPAs with Nick Smith, founder and brewmaster of Steam Machine Brewing in County Durham. In the second part of this episode we move across the pond to the USA where the style was revived in the early 1980s by the likes of Sierra Nevada and Anchor Brewing (with a big assist from newly developed American hops like Cascade). Our conversation follows the improbable growth in popularity of the style over the past four decades, including the seemingly endless variations of the venerable style. East coast vs West coast, the rise and fall of the self-contradictory black IPA, an explosion in hop varietals, and the current popularity of hazy IPAs are all touched upon in a meandering conversation that spans both sides of the Atlantic.
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Beers Featured
- Hoppy 40th Anniversary Ale by Sierra Nevada
- White Rajah by the Brew Kettle
- All Together Now by Hoof Hearted
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